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May 06, 2008

Sea Ice Update: Unprecedented SH High, Rapid NH Recovery

Posted by Paul, at 02:12 AM

There won't be much, if any, coverage in the media about the unprecedented high in the Southern Hemisphere sea ice anomaly, so a self-explanatory graphic is posted below of the 1979 to present anomaly from the 1979 to 2000 mean:

current.anom.south.jpg

We will, of course, be hearing about the extent of the Northern Hemisphere sea ice during the summer, which has bounced back over the winter from its record low. See the graph below of the anomaly for 1978 to present from the 1978 to 2000 mean:

current.anom.jpg

I'll finish with a graphic of the un-exciting 1979 to present global sea ice anomaly trend (in red) from the 1979 to 2000 mean (in black), and the global daily sea ice anomaly (in blue):

global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg

The graphs are from The Cryosphere Today

Posted by Paul at May 6, 2008 02:12 AM

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Jennifer,
If you look more closely, you'll see the NH is not really much above last year at this time:
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.365.jpg

As far as the SH is concerned, we're a good million sq km ahead of last year at this time.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.365.south.jpg

But with this PDO cooling taking hold, maybe we'll see changes in the NH trends.

Posted by: Pierre Gosselin at May 6, 2008 04:22 AM

Indeed - it will be interesting to what happens to the NH sea ice this year.

Posted by: Paul Biggs at May 6, 2008 05:18 AM

"If you look more closely, you'll see the NH is not really much above last year at this time:"

Keep this in perspective though -- six months ago, the melting NH polar ice cap was used to generate a fresh wave of alarm and hysteria. It was supposed to herald the imminent end of life as we know it, and people were even being urged to pray for the ice caps.

And now -- in a single season -- its back ABOVE where it was last year??

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/13/2117735.htm?section=world
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070719143502.htm
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/polar-ice-caps-melting-at-rate-never-before-seen/1287122764
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BQohXg7UyZQ&feature=related

etc... etc... ad infinitum ...

Posted by: Denialist Scum at May 6, 2008 09:27 AM

This is all very good but we have no right to complain about any lack of publicity if we don't convert it to an actual map showing the 1979, present day, and intervening maximum and minimum.

We need a pretty pickie, with lots of clean white ice.

Posted by: Ian Mott at May 6, 2008 09:48 AM

Informed commentary last year said that this year was unlikely to fall to or below the same levels. i.e. it was exceptional.

The trend in the NH time series is what is interesting. One year's data does not make a trend. Indeed the current ice levels are still not even average. http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png

If you're protesting at biased reporting let's aim for some clarity here!?

IMO - NH and SH should be reported individually not as a global total or issues will be confounded.

Posted by: Luke at May 6, 2008 10:08 AM

Indeed the NH sea ice is still clearly trending downwards for April values;


The problem here, as i keep saying to colleagues, is that in the Arctic you have (well, had) a significant portion of the pack being multi-year ice, as the enclosed nature of the Arctic means that things "swill about" a lot more. Much of that multi-year ice is now gone, and with it the "memory" of cooler times. This means that the Arctic is more vulnerable to local weather conditions than it has been for... well, at least my lifetime. The _volume_ of ice will hence be significantly less than previous years, even if a thin ice cover approaches average. Thats if it can get to average missing so much ice that normally "carries over" from the previous season.

As Luke says, treat the Antarctic quite separately. As it is not enclosed, and hence the ice can be far more divergent, small shifts in weather systems can result in significant shifts in the ice edge through Ekman drift. (ie ice is formed nearer the coast and gets "pushed" northwards - it doesnt stay where it forms for very long).

I suspect the dry April in Australia and the northward shift in ice are linked, and likewise the April trend in both; down in Aus rain and up in April SH ice, possibly both related to a more negative SAM index.

Posted by: AB at May 6, 2008 10:54 AM

Here's a curious graph: Inverted Annual Arctic Sea Ice Anomaly vs NH SST. You'll see why I inverted the sea ice data.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2ue4qzd.jpg

Note that, based on the upswing in the smoothed lines, the Arctic Sea Ice starts its decline in 1969, eight years before the start of the rise in NH SST. Hmmm??!!

Posted by: Bob Tisdale at May 6, 2008 11:16 AM

"We need a pretty pickie, with lots of clean white ice."

And a polar bear. It won't be taken seriously unless there is a polar bear in the picture as well. Preferably a happy polar bear - one that is revelling in all this CO2-induced sea ice.

Posted by: Denialist Scum at May 6, 2008 11:45 AM

Being visually cued I find Cryosphere fine, despite their dental disclaimer on the main page; if this ice isn't increasing I can't see the polar bears for the eskimos;

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=05&fd=04&fy=1980&sm=058&sd=04&sy=2008

Posted by: cohenite at May 6, 2008 12:22 PM

Sea ice extent doesn't mean much. How thick is it?

Posted by: Anthony at May 6, 2008 04:35 PM

Hello, I posted this over on Watts website but this seems the perfect place to post it as well. I was wondering why there has been no response on any of the blogs or websites about the following news story that was just released about scientist predicting another major artic ice melt this year.
here is the link to the story
http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/O/ON_THIN_ICE?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-05-02-21-12-09

Posted by: Linda at May 6, 2008 04:45 PM

"I was wondering why there has been no response".

What can you say? The poor fool is a day late and a dollar short. More to be pitied than despised.

Posted by: Denialist Scum at May 6, 2008 06:13 PM

If even the boy wonder is now suggesting that we treat Antarctica differently to the Arctic, can we conclude that he now agrees that there is no such thing as 'Global' warming?

Surely, those nations that border the North Atlantic have an issue with 'regionalised warming' that will produce both adverse and beneficial impacts as climatic variation always has done.

Posted by: Ian Mott at May 8, 2008 09:26 AM

Nope not suggesting that at all. It's important to not confound data sets. And yep Europe does enjoy the benefits of warming circulations.

But looking at many different data sources there is quite good evidence that "much" of the world has seen a warming trend.

Antarctica and the SH should be different. More ocean in SH And Antarctic circulation, particularly of recent years, tends to wall the continent off.

And the same argument you're using needs to done for rainfall in Australia - overall rainfall no trend - but regionally we have significant deficits in some areas - east, south-east, south-west and areas that have become wetter (north-west).

The warming itself is not the real issue - it's what happens to the extremes !

Posted by: Alarmist Creep (Lucy - the artist formerly known as Luke) at May 8, 2008 02:50 PM

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